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OK, I'd better publish the message that I sent to you.

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On rolia, we have a set of rules. (http://www.rolia.net/help/forum_rules.php) All moderation works are based on such rules.
If there are any posts violating the rules, we will take actions. However, technically, the moderators are not able to review every posts. That's why we have a "report abuse" function. If there is a post not in line with the rules, please do not reply, do not repeat. Please use the "report abuse" function to inform our moderators.

Please also read this topic in detail: http://www.rolia.net/f/topic.php?f=6&p=666032

Same as many other social networking platforms, posting on rolia is a privilege subject to the forum rules. It's not a right. On the other hand, the standard is our forum rules only. Although many "disgusting" words also violate the forum rules, strictly speaking, being "disgusting" may not necessarily violates our forum rules.

Specifically regarding the posts by 9妹 and fangxu, you may not have noticed that I did a lot of deletion. I deleted many posts by both of them. Fangxu's many posts were not reported in the first place, but when I had a chance to review them, I believe they were not in line with our forum rules and deserved being deleted.

Please help to make the forum better by reporting improper posts, and refrain from replying or repeating them. The forum should be a home for us, not a place of quarrelling.

If there are some IDs that you don't enjoy, while you cannot find their posts violating the forum rules, please use the tools of blacklisting or ignoring. Many Rolians found such tools are great and help to bring peace of mind. :)

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Replies, comments and Discussions:

  • 枫下家园 / 金秋年华 / 昨天跟细桶投诉了。此乃本人混在肉联十多年来第一次投诉,特记。 +8
    起因很简单。好久不来路过,见9妹的一个质疑帖平白无故被咔嚓,十分不解。9妹呢,其实就是把某ID说过的恶心话copy & paste, 然后问细桶为啥默许这些文字存在,有增无减越演越烈。哪知此帖一出,细桶二话没说直接把提问通通搬进了垃圾桶。相信昨天目睹此景的观众和我一样,感觉是。。。这,,几个意思???

    投诉之后,细桶童鞋认真作了长篇E文回复。其中最重要关键回复是:Repeating abusive wordings is not allowed. If certain wordings violate the rules, they should not appear on the forum, should not be reposted by someone else.

    哦,好吧。于是我说:当9妹的质问贴出来的时候,你完全可以在下面跟贴回应说:细桶很忙有时侯没有看到很多abusive 贴,无法及时作出反应。若对某些言语不满请在贴下投诉,等等等等。而你现在删贴的做法,看起来是非常偏袒一方的,有助纣为虐之嫌。细桶回说,谢谢建议并将考虑使用。

    由此看来,各位肉友,有啥不满就在那帖下投诉吧。细桶童鞋看起来确实是个很忙的理工男,最喜欢的是简单直接粗暴的投诉方式。反应最快,自然也最有效。
    • :)
    • 赞~~~难道只许某ID copy & paste,断章取义 +4
      • YES, 你有啥不服 :) +1
        • 眼不见心不烦
          拉黑了事
    • 老大的口气:)
      • 老大在缅甸出生入死,楼主吃点小亏就哭天抢地
    • 别跟一堆堆狗屎置气~ +8
      • 实话说,狗S我都直接屏蔽,怎么会生气。我昨天质疑的是管理者的行为。 +3
    • 赞若初!像三果说的,有底线的就是赢不了没底线的。论坛有时蛮让人失望的。原帖都好好在那儿,昨天9妹一copy反而被删 +4
      • If there are any posts violating the rules,
        we will take actions. However, technically, the moderators are not able to review every posts. That's why we have a "report abuse" function. If there is a post not in line with the rules, please do not reply, do not repeat. Please use the "report abuse" function to inform our moderators.
        • 多设几个斑竹呀 +1
          老大才能不熬夜值班
    • 说说我个人的看法吧。。我们大家不要把版主当道德法官。版主也不是天天刷坛,很多帖子也就是看个只鳞半爪,哪里能了解谁挑事,谁还手?即便他每天刷坛,他对于谁是谁非的判断,很难说是完全客观的,他也是人。 +5
      我的意思是,大家不要把帖子被删和对错直接挂等号,被删帖 = 坏人? 绝对不是。在版主眼里,应该是只有符合版规的帖子 Vs. 违反版规的帖子,没有好人 Vs. 坏人,一切按版规。至于什么样的版规算合理,这个题目太大了我答不上来,也不属于我该操心的事情。
      • 算了吧, 就凭他这次封ID 的行为,就足见他脑子不清楚~ 看我这ID会不会被封哈 +10
        • 老大出去折腾一个多月了~~~玩的太累~~~
          • 要么不作为, 要么公平作为~ 这个底线都没有, run这么个摊子, 真难为他也难为大家 +6
      • 没人把细桶当道德法官。实际上基本大家都认同,每个人的发言权都应该被允许和存在,包括恶心人说恶心话。我向细桶的提问是,既然允许恶心人说恶心话,也留在那儿没删除,那么质疑者的声音也必须被捍卫才公平是吧。 +2
        细桶的回答是,看到abusive wordings要及时投诉。因为细桶也是人没办法时时刻刻都看贴删贴。所以昨天细桶直接删除质疑者贴,就是因为他认同那些被copy的语言是abusive wordings,应该被删除的语言。well, 至少咱从中可以知道,什么程度的恶心话是细桶认为得删的恶心话。
        • 中坛那些事,除非自己卷入其中(比如我),会有想要争辩的冲动,否则,在不相干的人(这里面包括版主)看来,都是一地鸡毛,根本不会有人想去费脑子分辨谁对谁错。了。 +2
          目前是,假设A 讥讽了B 20贴,B 回了5贴,贴贴带F Word, B 就被封ID 了,A然后继续讥讽C,D, E 和F 。公平吗?当然不。但是版规就这样,A 没有说脏话,B 说了。讥讽别人算违规吗?我觉得看严重程度。Again, 这又涉及到制定版规的问题,我就不说了。
          • 昨天9妹的质问贴可没带任何一个Fword. 不跟贴说明删帖理由而直接端锅,这做法怎么看都有欠公平,至少是考虑不周。除非她贴的是已经被删掉的脏话。 +2
            • 你们女ID 不明白处理女生打架的事情对于男ID 来说是多么烧脑。水手是IT 男,你们要多体谅他。 +3
              • 就是因为理解, 我今天才发此贴跟大家说啊,唯一的办法是在"网红把生殖器挂嘴边优雅地说"的时候,不要copy,直接投诉!老大,是不是应该给咱发个奖状? +1
                • 同一个帖子,大家都投诉,会有效果。 +1
      • 一直都对版主删贴不以为然,一个事情一个争论往往因为删贴面目全非,得意的只能是那些做人无底线的人。。。 +3
        • 跟宫斗戏有一拼~
          • 宫斗至少是人与人斗,这里是拔根汗毛72变。。。 +1
            • 不许侮辱孙大圣~LOL~ +1
            • 不许侮辱孙大圣~LOL~ +1
    • 老大已经释法了,大家要不想ID被封,都散了吧 +2
    • 啥也不说,+100~ +1
    • 太在乎了,便要吃亏。古人不余欺也。 +2
    • 呵呵,某网红把生殖器挂嘴边想优雅地说就说,我去copy paste 就被封了ID。肉联从来不是讲理的地界。 +1
      • 细桶昨天很认真地长篇大论告诉我,唯一的办法是在"网红把生殖器挂嘴边优雅地说"的时候,不要copy,直接投诉! +1
        • 嗯,网红又犯病骂娼妓的时候,我妥妥投诉了。
    • 九妹摘抄的那些回帖集中在一起看真是很触目惊心。那么快就删除,说明细桶认为都是得删的恶心话,只是在事发现场没来得及第一时间删除。要删得先删源头,删copy and paste的确实没意思。 +1
    • OK, I'd better publish the message that I sent to you. +1

      ...
      On rolia, we have a set of rules. (http://www.rolia.net/help/forum_rules.php) All moderation works are based on such rules.
      If there are any posts violating the rules, we will take actions. However, technically, the moderators are not able to review every posts. That's why we have a "report abuse" function. If there is a post not in line with the rules, please do not reply, do not repeat. Please use the "report abuse" function to inform our moderators.

      Please also read this topic in detail: http://www.rolia.net/f/topic.php?f=6&p=666032

      Same as many other social networking platforms, posting on rolia is a privilege subject to the forum rules. It's not a right. On the other hand, the standard is our forum rules only. Although many "disgusting" words also violate the forum rules, strictly speaking, being "disgusting" may not necessarily violates our forum rules.

      Specifically regarding the posts by 9妹 and fangxu, you may not have noticed that I did a lot of deletion. I deleted many posts by both of them. Fangxu's many posts were not reported in the first place, but when I had a chance to review them, I believe they were not in line with our forum rules and deserved being deleted.

      Please help to make the forum better by reporting improper posts, and refrain from replying or repeating them. The forum should be a home for us, not a place of quarrelling.

      If there are some IDs that you don't enjoy, while you cannot find their posts violating the forum rules, please use the tools of blacklisting or ignoring. Many Rolians found such tools are great and help to bring peace of mind. :)

      • 老大完全可以做中国外交部发言人 +2
      • 老大,我可不是在跟你作对啊。我本来就不大了解论坛规则和投诉流程,经过昨天的提问,现在明白了。想着观众肯定很多和我差不多无知,此帖主要目的是告诉大家最简单有效的投诉方式。纯属义务普法。那啥,是不是应该给咱发个奖状? +1
        说回你的话:Fangxu's many posts were not reported in the first place, but when I had a chance to review them, I believe they were not in line with our forum rules and deserved being deleted.
        如果你昨天在9妹的质疑贴下,直接回应了这句话,然后说明,基于不允许copy and paste abusive wordings的论坛规则,请以后report abusive posts when they appear in the first place. 那肉友们就不会有任何其他想法了。
        • 谢谢谢谢。:)Rolia网站有很多功能和资源,有空多点点网页上的不同按钮和链接,会有好多惊喜哦。
      • 老大,借此也想问一下,对于经常性上这种违背版规,不尊重他人,侮辱他人的帖子的ID,Rolia有什么处罚措施?还是只是删除即为处罚。 +2
        • 这种增加点击率的得保护。
          • rolia不靠点击率。如果rolia依赖点击率的话,早就不是现在的rolia了。 +3
          • no
        • 换位思考一下,如果你是版主,对于违规帖,你删了,人家再贴,你再删,人家再贴,如此反复一整个上午,你会怎么做? +5
          • Work from home
          • 不清楚这属于什么样的场景。违反版规也有轻重之分,轻度的,比如调侃不尊重网友等,删除即可,,重度的比如骂人娼妓,那就需要额外处罚。光删了原贴平息不了被骂者的愤怒,就会被反反复复的贴出来。
            • My understanding is, in the scenario you mentioned, the previous victim would become the abuser. Is that right? +3
              • 事实是,这个abuser几年来一直持续不断的bully他人,儿童,从未停止过,受害者们在TA再次攻击人时会站出来指责。这个时间点,不清楚整个过程的以为是群殴。如果在一开始,大家都能投诉,情况严重的给予额外处罚,也许,会好一些。 +4
                • 事实是严重违规者活的好着呢。就拿这次朵朵封ID来说,难道她做的比fangxu骂我还过分? +1
              • 老大是说,我这个之前被无理谩骂的受害者,后来贴烤屏,就成了abuser?凡事都有前因后果
          • 不用换位了,你最大。你说的也不是事实,你删的,我没心情再贴。
            • "违规贴"?想笑~是贴中转的太不堪入目的污言秽语 脏到老大的眼了?先直接定位我的为"违规贴",你的外交辞令很搞笑么~某人污人爹妈的贴子随处见,是否应该用Ta的名言来让其受用呢?
              • 何其嚣张 ○ +1 就是喜欢扇就扇,扇完再给几个甜枣,再接着扇^ -fangxu1(fangfang); 14:54 (#11045116@0) +1
      • 也问个问题:脏话粗话不能容忍,我们晓得了。 那么网络霸凌呢?站长大人怎么看? +2
        • To be honest, I don't understand the definition of 网络霸凌. +2
          I'd say everything should be referred to the forum rules.

          Maybe this one matches the most?
          不尊重网友
          讨论问题时, 请秉持对事不对人, 对论点不对人的原则, 不可以把对事物和观点的看法引申为对辩友的评价.

          You can choose this item when you report a post.
          • wiki could help +1
            • OK。The rule of “不尊重网友” applies. +2
      • 看了论坛公约,并没说若违反会怎样。是不是最轻的是删帖,然后是封Id?封几天呢?最重的是删id,就是再不能login了?
    • 再次谢谢若初~祝好~