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我家的EDEN不错的啊


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  • 枫下沙龙 / 花鸟虫鱼 / 说说我和EDEN玫瑰 +2

    最近看到群里在团购抢购这个EDEN玫瑰很多人趋之若鹜,忍不住吐槽一下。

    非常有名气的EDEN玫瑰是Meilland1985年开发出的一种climbing rose,当年叫Pierre De Ronsard中文名字是龙沙宝石,在市场上若干年后才开始很受欢迎,2006年,它被誉为“全世界最受欢迎的月季”。后来还开发出了红色的俗称红龙。龙沙宝石的花大,花开后平均的花朵直径为10厘米左右,花型近似古典月季的杯状花型,花瓣内侧颜色为胭脂粉红,外侧则为乳白色或白中透绿。大多数花的花瓣数有55到60-100片, 非常的娇艳美丽。但是我必须要说,它不适合多伦多地区种,咱们详细说说这个龙沙宝石。

    首先EDEN适合在zone5-9的地区种植,如果再细分的话,实际上它是zone5B的, 所以在多伦多地区,它非常难以爬起来,大多数时候每年地上部分都会被冻死。如果你非常想要尝试的话,那么详细的选择合适的地址就非常重要了。我强烈建议靠南墙或西南墙种,而且靠得越近越好,最好是紧挨着墙,用铁丝让他爬在墙上,这样外墙的砖在冬日的太阳下能够吸收热量,很好的保护它度过寒冬。但是光是这个还不够,你还要必须保证你选择的这个墙在4-10月份能够晒到足够的阳光,EDEN的耐阴性很一般,所以你最少要保证6小时,如果想开花多日照越多越好。其他种玫瑰必须的土地排水和多加compost就不用多说了。但是即便你做到了所有这些,EDEN通常只能回报你6月中下到七月中这一季鲜花,当然了,如果满足上面的条件而且种的好的话,经过三五年这一季鲜花会非常美,也能开得很多。但是在7-10月中它就很少再开花了,而很多人都种不好,根本就一年看不到几朵花,这些信息你很容易在houzz.com上花友的交流中查到,rightrose网站上的评分也不高才5.6分。当然了,卖花的网站是不会这么说的,他们介绍的都是EDEN开花又大又美,抗病好复花好还有香味儿。

    我两年前曾经在Home Depot花12元买了一个很看着很壮的裸根,不过种到地里没几天就被兔子啃的差不多了,后来又缓过来一点儿,只开了一朵花还在阳光下充满了锈迹,但是从来没长得超过20公分高,我种的地方在房子南侧,阳光不错但是土壤很贫瘠,到了冬天忘记保护,第2年就没再发芽了,照片记录了我唯一的一朵花:


    后来因为鲜有听说在多伦多种出效果的,所以在这之后我没再尝试了,而且我家也确实没有日照时间很长的西南墙可以种,即便是可以,我对这种一年只开一茬花的品种实在是不太感兴趣。

    或许就像rightrose上所说的,EDEN是那种适合种在别人家院子里的花,当它盛开绽放美丽的时候,去看一下欣赏一下就足够了,希望能有人能在多伦多种出漂亮的效果让我改变主意。

    原文发在了文学城。https://blog.wenxuecity.com/myblog/76109/202104/25226.html


    • 成功拔草,呵呵。 +1
      • 哈哈,我当初也是看到知乎上人家一年半就种成这样,于是就买了一棵,还好我买的很便宜,才12元一棵。
        如果这辈子只能种一棵花,你会选什么?相信很多人的答案会是“龙沙宝石”。被奉为月季女神的龙沙是很多月季爱好者入坑的“毒药”。虽然是一年只开一次花的藤本,但是依然阻挡不了人们对它的喜爱。 拉丁文:Pierre …
    • 看来最近玫瑰梦没少做
      风子谈花,一发不可收拾
      • 哈哈,春天发些春梦花梦是正常的,赵忠祥说了:春天到了,又到了.................的季节
    • 被国内忽悠了,在国内是网红玫瑰
      • 在气候相对暖和的地方,比如我老家江浙一带,它很容易长大,第一波花真是美轮美奂,美艳无比。我表妹没有几年就栽出规模可观的一颗。可惜我们在安省。
    • RIGHTROSES的评论
      A deep rose review and The Right Roses score. Eden, one of the most famous climbing roses. It can produce an incredible Spring flush.
      • HOUZZ上网友的讨论
        Hello all. Does anyone in zones 5b/6a have any experience with this rose? How did it perform for you. Did it flower the first year? How much of cane did you have to prune come spring? How disease resistant was this rose in your garden. The rose is advertised to be shade tolerant. Did you find this t...
    • 支持你的所有论点。我有一颗Eden, 种植条件符合你说的所有条件,精心养了三年,第三年开了十几朵美丽的花。可是过冬和复花真的是大问题。前两年一直长得很小,基本没有复花,第三年有点样子了,复了可怜的几朵。今年是第四年,1.5米高,过冬做了保护,
      目前大多数枝条发芽了。昨天为了它有更多空间,把旁边的爬藤植物几乎剪没了,希望至少第一波花开好些,到时我来给花友们update。 安省的天气对大多数花草都很不友好,选择玫瑰的首要条件是抗寒。毕竟,爱玫瑰的花友肯定不希望把玫瑰当annual养。
      • 等着看你家EDEN的美景,你家可比我们暖和
      • 请问过冬怎样保护,爬的可以取下来放倒吗&今年刚抱回来一盆,听说第一波开时肥不能停才有第二波
        • 我先拿绳子简单扎一下,再包麻布,有一尺多直径吧,最后塞上干树叶。玫瑰喜欢肥,只要不过量就好。我鸡粪和玫瑰缓释肥一起放的,一年总要好几次,有时间的话也上水溶肥。
    • 我也有一个
    • 请教下我家的 Grand Amour 第二年就长到1.8米,说是 Hybrid rose,难道也是爬墙玫瑰吗?
      • 有好多茶香可以长得很高大,你愿意的话,只要长枝条能过冬,训练成爬藤也可以啊。请问在哪里买到的?我去年没找到。谢谢。
        • 就是那家著名的 Palatine Fruit & Roses,他家的玫瑰都长得好高大,我都犯愁了。
          • 我也觉得它家玫瑰蛮高大,尤其是Shrub Rose
      • 这个也是ZONE 5B或者ZONE6的,得找个暖和的地方种,本来就不小,能长一米五,只要枝条不冻死1米8不是问题,问题有些品种是你不修剪瘦高不好看
        • 我也是看到说长到一米五,结果长特别高,枝条也很壮,冬天也没防护枝条基本活了,我的问题是没那么大的地方让他长,应该狠狠剪枝嗎?
          • 玫瑰不怕剪的,而且3年以上的老枝条要剪的很低,这样才能长出新的替换掉老的
          • 看DAVIDSAUSTIN网站上的修剪说明,挺有用的
            The instructions in this article cover the pruning of English Shrub Roses, as well as other repeat flowering shrub roses. WHy should i prune? Pruning is essential if you really want your rose to thrive. English Roses are naturally vigorous and, if left without pruning, may become large and leggy shrubs. The main purpose of pruning is to create a shapely, attractive shrub, with good structure, you can do this by simply removing parts of the plant during the non-flowering season. Pruning encourages fresh new growth and plentiful blooms for the following season. WHEN SHOULD I PRUNE We recommend pruning in late winter/early spring, when the first growth is beginning. This is generally between February and April, depending on your zone. It is OK to prune earlier, but it can be more difficult to identify the less healthy stems that you will want to prune out. how to prune a shrub rose Pruning requirements vary depending on the age of your rose.  If pruned properly, your rose bush will look signficantly smaller and bare. Do not be alarmed, the growth will strengthen and re-establish quickly in the spring. The diagram shows a 2+ year old shrub before and after pruning, once all stems have been cut back by half. Year One We define Year One as any rose that has completed its first season of flowering. At this stage your rose will still be establishing its roots to support growth in the future, thus only very light pruning is required. Step 1 – cut back the flowering shoots by 3-5 inches and any very strong shoots that are disproportionate to the rest of the plant. Step 2 – the ‘four D’s’ – remove any dead, dying, damaged and diseased stems. Step 3 – remove any foliage that remains. This is where disease spores can lay dormant ready to challenge your plant next year. Year Two Your plant will still be developing its root system and will not be at its mature size or shape. Step 1 – cut back all stems by one third. Cut back any particularly long stems to the same length as the rest of your shrub. Step 2 – the ‘four D’s’ – remove any dead, dying, damaged and diseased stems. Step 3 – remove any foliage that remains. Year Three By the third year your rose will be a fully formed plant. Your choice of how much you cut back is a little more flexible. You now have the opportunity to influence the size and shape of your shrub. Before pruning, choose from one of the following: For a taller shrub – cut back by less than one third. To maintain its current size – cut your rose back by one third. To reduce its size – cut back by a half or even more. This will reduce the size of the shrub without impacting the amount of flowering. Then follow these steps: Step 1 – cut back all stems depending on your choice from above. Cut back any particularly long stems to the same length as the rest of your shrub. Step 2 – the ‘four D’s’ – remove any dead, dying, damaged and diseased stems. Step 3 – remove any foliage that remains. Year Four and Beyond To ensure your rose performs to its optimum, we recommend following the steps in Year Three every year. KEY POINTS Remember these key points to ensure effective pruning: Shaping is essential. Try to create a rounded shrub. Don’t worry about where you cut a stem. Accepted wisdom suggests cutting just above a leaf joint with a sloping cut away from the bud. However, there is no evidence to prove this is necessary. Don’t worry about cutting back too much. Roses are extremely strong and will grow back even if you cut all of the stems right back to the base. Carefully dispose of foliage. Foliage should never be composted and should be removed from your garden. This ensures spores that can initiate disease are removed from your garden. Look out for loose roses. Look out for any roses that are loose in the ground due to the wind rocking them to the point where they are no longer standing upright. Firm around the base of each loose rose and cut them back a little more to reduce wind resistance. you may also like pruning english climbers The instructions in this article cover the pruning of English Climbing Roses , as well as other repeat flowering climbing roses. how to prune an established climbing rose Pruning is arguably the most important job you can do for your roses. I In this video, our Head Gardener, Steve, will show you how to prune an established climbing rose. When we use the term ‘established’ we mean a rose that has flowered for two or more years. how to plant a bare root climbing rose By following these simple steps, you will ensure your bare root climbing rose gets off to the best possible start. How to plant a bare root shrub rose By following these simple steps, you will ensure your bare root shrub rose gets off to the best possible start see more rose care articles & inspiration recommended roses
          • 哦看这个链接吧,里面有视频比较直观
            The instructions in this article cover the pruning of English Shrub Roses, as well as other repeat flowering shrub roses. WHy should i prune? Pruning is essential if you really want your rose to thrive. English Roses are naturally vigorous and, if left without pruning, may become large and leggy shrubs. The main purpose of pruning is to create a shapely, attractive shrub, with good structure, you can do this by simply removing parts of the plant during the non flowering season. Pruning encourages fresh new growth and plentiful blooms for the following season. WHEN SHOULD I PRUNE We recommend pruning in late winter/early spring, when the first growth is beginning. This is generally between January and February. It is ok to prune earlier, but it can be more difficult to identify the less healthy stems that you will want to prune out. If you still haven’t pruned by March it is still better to do so. video tutorials for pruning a shrub rose Watch the video on How to prune a newly planted Shrub Rose Pruning after the first summer of flowers. Watch the video on How to prune an ESTABLISHED shrub rose  how to prune a shrub rose Pruning requirements vary depending on the age of your rose.  If pruned properly, your rose bush will look signficantly smaller and bare. Do not be alarmed, the growth will strengthen and re-establish quickly in the spring. The diagram shows a 2+ year old shrub before and after pruning, once all stems have been cut back by half. Year One We define Year One as any rose that has completed its first season of flowering. At this stage your rose will still be establishing its roots to support growth in the future, thus only very light pruning is required. Step 1 – cut back the flowering shoots by 3-5 inches and any very strong shoots that are disproportionate to the rest of the plant. Step 2 – the ‘four D’s’ – remove any dead, dying, damaged and diseased stems. Step 3 – remove any foliage that remains. This is where disease spores can lay dormant ready to challenge your plant next year. Year Two Your plant will still be developing its root system and will not be at its mature size or shape. Step 1 – cut back all stems by one third. Cut back any particularly long stems to the same length as the rest of your shrub. Step 2 – the ‘four D’s’ – remove any dead, dying, damaged and diseased stems. Step 3 – remove any foliage that remains. Year Three By the third year your rose will be a fully formed plant. Your choice of how much you cut back is a little more flexible. You now have the opportunity to influence the size and shape of your shrub. Before pruning, choose from one of the following: For a taller shrub – cut back by less than one third. To maintain its current size – cut your rose back by one third. To reduce its size – cut back by a half or even more. This will reduce the size of the shrub without impacting the amount of flowering. Then follow these steps: Step 1 – cut back all stems depending on your choice from above. Cut back any particularly long stems to the same length as the rest of your shrub. Step 2 – the ‘four D’s’ – remove any dead, dying, damaged and diseased stems. Step 3 – remove any foliage that remains. Year Four and Beyond To ensure your rose performs to its optimum, we recommend following the steps in Year Three every year. KEY POINTS Remember these key points to ensure effective pruning: Shaping is essential. Try to create a rounded shrub. Don’t worry about where you cut a stem. Accepted wisdom suggests cutting just above a leaf joint with a sloping cut away from the bud. However, there is no evidence to prove this is necessary. Don’t worry about cutting back too much. Roses are extremely strong and will grow back even if you cut all of the stems right back to the base. Carefully dispose of foliage. Foliage should never be composted and should be removed from your garden. This ensures spores that can initiate disease are removed from your garden. Look out for loose roses. Look out for any roses that are loose in the ground due to the wind rocking them to the point where they are no longer standing upright. Firm around the base of each loose rose and cut them back a little more to reduce wind resistance. accessories you may like you may also like pruning english climbers The instructions in this article cover the pruning of English Climbing Roses , as well as other repeat flowering climbing roses. how to prune an established climbing rose Pruning is arguably the most important job you can do for your roses. I In this video, our Head Gardener, Steve, will show you how to prune an established climbing rose. When we use the term ‘established’ we mean a rose that has flowered for two or more years. how to plant a bare root climbing rose By following these simple steps, you will ensure your bare root climbing rose gets off to the best possible start. How to plant a bare root shrub rose By following these simple steps, you will ensure your bare root shrub rose gets off to the best possible start see more rose care articles & inspiration recommended roses
          • 谢谢风过提供详细建议。
        • 我这棵叫不上名字的不怎么修剪就可以长到1.8米高,但是花就不容易欣赏到了,我一般保持1.5米高


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    • 我家的EDEN不错的啊 +2


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      • 美🤤
      • 要看种植地点,我的AMERICA就是ZONE5的,在墙边长的很高大。你的EDEN现在爬到多高了?每年开一次还是有复花?
        • 就开一次花!我都不知道这个理应复花的。去年开得不错,今年第三年了,长势还行。那地日照长,1米多高了。我瞎买的,所以没有研究。看来得好好伺候着。
          • 要是第三年才一米多那可是长的不快,EDEN据说大部分人都很少见到复花的,尤其是咱们这里的气候
            • 我花了10刀,已经是我买的玫瑰里表现最好的了。佩服你们的研究精神,我就是打酱油的,也不会修剪,所以也没有太高期待。刚才去看了看,主枝顶部貌似已经死了,侧枝好像不到2米,很好奇今年会如何开花了。
      • 太美了!
        • 确实美,貌似还不大招虫。有玫瑰首个花苞一般都被青虫吃掉了。
      • 花很美
      • 美不胜收 +1
    • 我家去年2年纪的龙沙不错 +1

      1.5 米高, 有一条主枝有1.8米。复花一朵。

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      • 𣎴错
    • 家里没有阳光好的地方,彻底就别种了。
    • 点赞!成功避免踩坑!多谢分享!请继续!
    • 不是Zone 4以下的坚决不种。谢谢你坚定了我的信念